threshold reflective – up in the air

as well as agreeing some points there were other issues which needed further thought and discussion. there may never be a clear answer to these dilemnas:

  • is threshold post-christian or post-secular? how does this question effect the content of our reflectives? is there a value in always assuming that someone from a different religious culture will be present? how do we react emotionally to references to scripture? is it best to assume diversity even if we seem similar? we would like to include people from any religion (or none), but so far we have all been post/christian, is it more realistic to ask guest speakers from other perspectives?
  • initially we conceptualised threshold as a point of exit or entry in terms of organised religion, but we all seem to be standing on the threshold for a long time! we now feel that there is much to explore in this state of being.
  • threshold meets in public, but the nature of english pub culture means that people will never join in with what we’re doing (unless our reflective was officially recognised by the venue). we talked about the difference between meeting in public and meeting for the public. at some point we would like to do something which engages more people, but this also seemed to raise some anxiety in terms of capacity issues. we also talked about trying to become a recognised event in a venue’s publicity (e.g. like start the bus or cafe kino).

3 Responses to “threshold reflective – up in the air”

  1. Richard Says:

    I’m of the view that it is more significant that we do things in public rather than for the public. Holding our reflectives in the pub has two benefits: it normalizes spiritual engagement as an “everyday” activity by bringing it out of its dedicated and separated “ghetto”, and it forces us to have that engagement in the middle of other conversations, other concerns. In other words, we are just people sitting in a pub talking about things that matter – just like the other people in the pub. From that perspective, I see what we do as a conversation rather than a service (in either sense). I am very happy for others to join in, as once happened, but feel no imperative to seek their direct participation.

  2. Bea Says:

    We didn’t have time on Sunday to discuss venues further. I’ve done a bit of research and would like to suggest we try out meeting at the Ship Inn
    http://www.britishpubguide.com/cgi-bin/pubsearch.cgi?results:Bristol:374
    which is just next to St Mary Redcliffe (NB there are other Ship Inn pubs in bristol, the postcode of this one is BS1 6PA). I’ve never been inside but the website claims it does decent beer and is child-friendly. There is even skittles alley and darts board which could be useful.

    I would like to make a suggestion that this should be the venue for a July reflective one sunday afternoon, as per the proposed one-meeting-a-month-not-two plan, if that is generally approved of.

    If that venue turns out not to work then we could also try the Inn on the Green, up the gloucester road, but that’s a lot less central.

  3. jenny Says:

    I suspect there’s a bit of confusion over this (because other people have commented on another thread http://thresholdbristol.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/threshold-reflective-decisions-to-be-made/). My impression is we’re looking for a pub with a children’s play area not just outside space (e.g. swings etc) for the summer. This could be a good spot for a winter activity. The Watershed may also be good later on because they have computers the children could use and cinekids (http://www.watershed.co.uk/exhibits/1936/).

    From an internet search we now know of 13 pubs in Bristol with an outdoor play area.
    Bloomfield Inn Brislington
    Prince Of Wales Westbury-On-Trym, Bristol
    Velindra Redcliffe, Bristol
    Hope & Anchor Shirehampton, Bristol
    Sandringham Brislington, Bristol
    Treble Chance Southmead, Bristol
    Kensington Arms Redland, Bristol
    Portcullis Fishponds, Bristol
    John Cabot Horfield, Bristol
    Black Swan Westbury-On-Trym, Bristol
    Beehive Henleaze, Bristol
    Avon Packet Southville, Bristol
    Spring Gardens Hotwells, Bristol
    http://www.britishpubguide.com/cgi-bin/pub.cgi?facility:Bristol:19

    We haven’t looked up all of these yet but so far the Kensington Arms looks best in Redland (near train station and on 8 and 9 bus routes). Generally looks nice see:
    http://www.thekensingtonarms.co.uk/white.htm


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